Tree Life = Animal Live = Human Life
terribly early in the morning on Friday, the 31st of July 2009 by Katie
So says the Science Czar.
Just when it seems that Obama’s Science Czar couldn’t be more ridiculous (in a really scary way), I learn more.
Yesterday, I learned the he believed that infants EVENTUALLY became human beings. I had written I post about the whole thing, but then my kids deleted it (I’m not sure if they are human beings yet, at least according to Holdren…)
As I had previously posted, in 1977, Holdren co-authored a book, Ecoscience, that supported: mandatory sterilization, forced abortions, mandatory birth control with corresponding requests for permission from the gov to procreate, regulated family size, and drugging the public water with drugs that would cause infertility on a mass scale.
Since then, Obama’s people have clarified that Holdren didn’t really mean that. He was only a co-author, and the other authors must have written those bits in.
So, why in 1973, did Holdren co-author “Human Ecology” with the same people? He must agree with them, they obviously have a long term professional relationship.
Michelle Malkin has more about the book.
Some bits from “Human Ecology”:
“A massive campaign must be launched to restore a high-quality environment in North America and to de-develop the United States,” Holdren wrote in a 1973 book he co-authored with Paul R. Ehrlch and Anne H. Ehrlich. “De-development means bringing our economic system (especially patterns of consumption) into line with the realities of ecology and the global resource situation.”
“The need for de-development presents our economists with a major challenge,” they wrote. “They must design a stable, low-consumption economy in which there is a much more equitable distribution of wealth than in the present one. Redistribution of wealth both within and among nations is absolutely essential, if a decent life is to be provided to every human being.”
With ideas like those, it is a wonder he isn’t the Economic Czar, it would explain a lot.
“The fetus, given the opportunity to develop properly before birth, and given the essential early socializing experiences and sufficient nourishing food during the crucial early years after birth, will ultimately develop into a human being,” John P. Holdren, director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, wrote in “Human Ecology: Problems and Solutions.”
So, infants are not human. Therefore, infanticide is not murder? One wonders, at what age do children receive full “human being” status?
Then, I saw the following headline late last night: In the 70s, Obama’s Science Adviser Endorsed Giving Trees Legal Standing to Sue in Court.
I guess my back-yard tree could sue me for negligence.
Since the 1970s, some radical environmentalists have argued that trees have legal rights and should be allowed to go to court to protect those rights.
The idea has been endorsed by John P. Holdren, the man who now advises President Barack Obama on science and technology issues.
Giving “natural objects” — like trees — standing to sue in a court of law would have a “most salubrious” effect on the environment, Holdren wrote the 1970s.
“One change in (legal) notions that would have a most salubrious effect on the quality of the environment has been proposed by law professor Christopher D. Stone in his celebrated monograph, ‘Should Trees Have Standing?’” Holdren said in a 1977 book that he co-wrote with Paul R. Ehrlich and Anne H. Ehrlich….
“In that tightly reasoned essay, Stone points out the obvious advantages of giving natural objects standing, just as such inanimate objects as corporations, trusts, and ships are now held to have legal rights and duties,” Holdren added.Stone’s article — “Should Trees Have Standing?” — which Holdren called a “tightly reasoned essay,” was published in the Southern California Law Review in 1972.
In that article, Stone plainly states: “I am quite seriously proposing that we give legal rights to forests, oceans, rivers and other so-called ‘natural objects’ in the environment–indeed, to the natural environment as a whole.”
Stone admits in the article that it may seem improbable to give legal rights to nonhuman objects, but likened it to finally giving rights to black Americans.
“The fact is, that each time there is a movement to confer rights onto some new ‘entity,’ the proposal is bound to sound odd or frightening or laughable,” Stone wrote.
“This is partly because until the rightless (sic) thing receives its rights, we cannot see it as anything but a thing for the use of ‘us’–those who are holding rights at the time . . . Such is the way the slave South looked upon the black.”
I wonder, how do you get a tree to testify in court? How does it even call a lawyer? Oh, that’s right – the ecofreaks already speak “tree” and would sue on their behalf. I just hope that those rights don’t go as far as my azaleas – I just wacked the heck out of them yesterday.
What is really bothering me is that there are several people in Obama’s administration, that he hand picked, that obviously do not believe in the sacredness of human life. And, since he hand picked them, Obama must feel similarly. And these are the people that want to push their HEALTHCARE AGENDA????
And that is where I get worried. If people who do not believe that human life is special or something worth saving start running our healthcare system, then our lives really might be threatened.
They already have said that infants are not human. Does that mean that the really expensive neonatal care would not be “necessary” or cost effective?
And what about our elderly? Our grandmothers and grandfathers, who treated us with cookies every time that we visited? Who had time to listen to our rambling dreams? Who gave us the uncritical love that parents really cannot give? (yes, I had two sets of incredible “perfect” grandparents) But what happens when they get REALLY OLD?
That answer might be in: Obama-Care, Euthanasia, and The Boiled Frog Syndrome.
Obama’s “health” czar is Rahm Emmanuel’s brother, Ezekiel. Dr. Ezekiel Emmanuel has this sage advice for doctors treating the elderly, “Doctors take the Hippocratic Oath too seriously as an imperative to do everything for the patient regardless of the cost, or the effects on others.” Kind of warms the cockles of the heart, doesn’t it?
Not to put too fine a point on it, we’re talking about euthanasia here folks—i.e killing people deemed unfit to serve society, because of mental or physical infirmities. No joke. The “joke” is that AARP is endorsing euthanasia for the welfare of its elderly members.
Think I’m kidding, or imaging things? For some good info, and a chronological timeline that shows the steady growth of this insidious idea, check out Tree of Life: http://www.lifetree.org/timeline/index.html
Read the paper Dr Emmanuel co-wrote with Margaret Pabst Battin entitled, “What Are the Potential Cost Savings from Legalizing Physician-Assisted Suicide?” For even more fun, you’ll want to dive into his co-author’s “Choosing the Time to Die: The Ethics and Economics of Suicide in Old Age” or the ever-popular, “Age-Rationing and the Just Distribution of Health Care; Is There a Duty to Die?”
You might want to look into The Project on Death in America, started and funded by wealthy Obama backer George Soros, and you won’t want to miss Anton Chaitkin’s short PDF “The Nazi Euthanasia Program: Forerunner of Obama’s Death Council.” Among other interesting facts, you’ll find out about the Hastings Center, which you really should know about. http://www.larouchepub.com/eiw/public/2009/2009_20-29/2009-24/pdf/74-77_3624.pdf
One of the more interesting members of the Hastings Center is the animal rights activist Peter Singer. Here’s a quote from his paper “Taking Life: Human,” “…the use of the Nazi analogy is utterly misleading. On the contrary, once we abandon those doctrines about the sanctity of human life that…collapse as soon as they are questioned, it is the refusal to accept killing that, in some cases, is horrific.”
http://www.utilitarian.net/singer/by/1993—-.htm“The doctrines about the sanctity of human life collapse as soon as they are questioned.” Really? Gee whiz, I didn’t know that. And, gosh, I could’ve sworn that you sound a whole lot like a Nazi-style Eugenics nut. Thanks for setting me straight Doc.
According to Chaitkin, “Singer advocates the killing of handicapped infants, to stop them from being a burden to parents and a cost to society. He believes that humans have no right to life above that of beasts, and that it may be more appropriate to do medical experiments on disabled, unconscious people than on healthy rats.”
Heinrich Himmler, the man in charge of Hitler’s extermination camps, was, like Singer, an animal rights activist. I’m not implying anything, I’m just saying… I just find it an interesting coincidence, is all.
Our “health” czar, Dr. Emmanuel, is also a member in good standing of the Hastings Center. How’d you like to be “a fly on the wall” during a chat between Emmanuel and Singer at the Hastings Center? It would be an eye opener, no doubt. Probably a jaw dropper too.
I think I speak for a whole lot of retired people when I say, “Thanks AARP! Really appreciate your looking out for us older folks!” God, what a bunch of duplicitous, back-stabbing weasels. (Note to self—cancel my AARP membership – and don’t leave Mom alone with any people from AARP).The Fascist Left will tell you “Oh, that euthanasia stuff is just slippery slope nonsense. There’s nothing in our health bill about euthanasia.” Don’t you buy into their B.S. for a second. This is one slippery slope they are just dying to slide down (pun noted).
Part of the healthcare bill (H.R. 3200 Section 1233) is the required attendance of anyone over 65 to a “counseling” session, where they discuss end of life choices. If the senior citizen is ill, they are required to attend annually.
If the healthcare system is run by people who think that the elderly are not cost-effective, and who also believe in physician assisted suicide, (remember Emmanuel said ““Doctors take the Hippocratic Oath too seriously as an imperative to do everything for the patient regardless of the cost, or the effects on others.”), what are they going to be discussing in their counseling sessions?
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July 31st, 2009 at 5:41 am
Oh, my god. Are you really this gullible? “Oh, lordy, the scary black man is going to kill us all!”
“Part of the healthcare bill (H.R. 3200 Section 1233) is the required attendance of anyone over 65 to a “counseling” session, where they discuss end of life choices. If the senior citizen is ill, they are required to attend annually.”
You almost got that right. Just replace the word “required” with “allowed.” It’s called counseling! It’s gotten a bad rap in America, but it’s helped a lot of people through hard times.
Only an idiot would believe that the government plans to kill all the taxpayers. Think about it for a while.
Rants like yours are usually only found on streetcorners, from guys carrying hand-lettered cardboard signs. Or on late-night reruns of “Soylent Green,” I guess.
July 31st, 2009 at 6:55 am
Did I EVER say anything about Obama’s race? What does that have to do with anything?
I do not like Obama because of his policies, his statements, his cronies. His race has nothing to do with it (I think that Carter is an idiot, also).
I do not want an administration, which is on the record stating that treatment of the elderly is not cost effective, getting anywhere near my aging parents.
I do not want government paid “counsellors” talking about end of life decisions with my parents. Aging is not fun. It is not pretty. And there are some really bad days. Does that mean that my parents are any less valuable than me? When my father is having a really painful day, do I want some person to advise him about doctor assisted suicide?
Obama’s cronies are on the record stating that they believe that handicapped children should be killed, that infants are not humans yet, that public drinking water should be drugged with infert drugs, that the elderly are not cost effective, that doctors take their Hippocratic Oath too seriously, that doctor assisted suicide is a good thing, and those are only the appetizer – WHY DO YOU CHOOSE NOT TO BELIEVE WHAT THEY ARE TELLING YOU? You would rather just drink the kool-aid, and believe that the government is after your welfare. WELL, IT ISN’T.
I do not think that the gov wants to get rid of the taxpayers – I believe that they want to get rid of you once the scale flips, and you are no longer giving, but receiving.
A caring, compassionate society would treat their infants and elderly better than what they are proposing to do.
If rants like mine are only to be found on streetcorners – this country is even further down the road than I thought. But, it still won’t stop me from speaking out.
August 1st, 2009 at 12:31 pm
Hehehehe! Katie got flipped off by a Libtard! It happens when these morons have nothing to say, so it’s automatically assumed that if you don’t like Dumbobama, you’re a racist. Prolly someone with White Guilt that voted for that jerk and won’t admit to having “buyer’s remorse”. http://bit.ly/nWuCM
August 2nd, 2009 at 3:42 am
I was only on my first cup of coffee, I’m not a saint!!
The thing that amazes me about libs – their failure to notice that they are the true racists.
Who would normally be a racist – the one that who sees everything defined by race, or the one who looks at the issues and makes their decision based on that.
Yet, Obama supporters always see race. I do not Obama, because I think that he is destroying the country. Who gives a flip what race he is? I don’t like Reid either, does that mean I hate all White Mormons? Or does disagreeing with Kennedy, Kerry, Pelosi, and Biden mean that I hate all White Catholics (even though none of the above mentioned can actually be called practicing Catholics)?
August 2nd, 2009 at 3:15 pm
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August 2nd, 2009 at 3:31 pm
sorry I had an error with my previous post, so… trying again..
Katie… awesome… and maybe you should write more before you have completed your coffee requirement, because I like your response to the above moron… way to go!
Also, yes the racists are those who make choices based on race alone… and people who make choices for or against solely based on race, religion, sex, nationality… like our President has been doing, and all the zombies who voted for him did.. The rest of the sane Americans are stuck with the result, which is definitely starting to look like we are replaying history… a charismatic individual who promises “change” and other crap… and then turns the country upside down, has chosen people who focus on the extermination of various groups… gee sounds way too much like gee what’s his name (note sarcasm, we all know who Obama is the reincarnation of.. and hint he was a white man, the 1st half of last century).
Now the view on what a human being is, wow… so I guess I never became a human being, I did not have that crucial aspect of “the essential early socializing experiences”… well we all knew I likely was an alien, which this must confirm it.. Since I look so much like a human, but cannot be qualified as one by our government? Yike.
At the same time they are dehumanizing children… i.e. supporting late term abortions. Why are they not focused on executions of murderers, rapists and child molesters… since that would definitely help remove a huge burden on society?
I thought I would die when I saw the part about the trees… so will they do a web-cam type option, since obviously bringing the tree to court would endanger its life… and bringing the court to the tree would no doubt not be an option, since surely it would compromise the ecosystem.. I am now seeing in my own warped mind the court case of tree vs. the people… Imagine the case about the maple tree being tapped for syrup? The case of the tree whose off spring were stolen from the ground? How about the selection of which trees are removed for the safety of other trees, when they thin forests to help aid the growth/health of trees, and to prevent wild-fires? Oh the in-humanity, wait what would be call that? The in-vegetation?
Now the this whack-job denying the book from his early years… just like obama has denied his terrorist & Acorn connections… seems to be a current theme, add the tax-dodgers, since the government employees do not have to pay its tab, right?
The health care system taken over by these individuals is definitely a scary concept… to attack the 1st comment, I am sure the eliminations will not just be white people… but well who knows right? Perhaps this is his agenda? But then he would have to kill 1/2 of his own self, and a 1/4 of his children? Yes that is a crazy thought but so is that 1st comment, thinking Katie’s post was nothing more than crazy-street-person. If that is the case, then we need to tune in more to the ramblings/ranting of our street folk… and that would also make me realize, that no doubt a crazy street person would be more qualified to be president than this current joke in office!
Now on assisted suicide… I do think we should have this, but it should not be handled/run by our government. I do think just as a person has a right to be born, they have a right to die. I also support the death penalty and strongly belief in an eye-for-an-eye… murderers, rapists and child molesters should not be permitted to exist… and if we could kill off the idiotic concept of “cruel & inhumane” I would love to see such scum of the earth tortured prior to death or for them to receive a slow-painful execution.
The elderly… well for anyone who knows me knows I did have a smile when I saw the idea of eliminating people over 65 (since both my parents are over 65)… but I do have allot of friends over 65, so this is not something I would support.. But I do think the concept of keeping people alive to the extent that is currently done, is simply overkill… again I believe in a right to die, and people suffering, people who have no clue who their family is, it is not kind to keep them alive, if they don’t want to be alive.. so for some reason murderers, rapists & child molesters have the right to humanity but cruel and unusual not only applies to their victims but to the elderly and chronically ill?
I do understand what Katie is saying and she was very lucky to have such warm fuzzy and loving family memories… and perhaps my disconnect with that is part of why I see things as I do. But I think it is cruel for people to merely exist, housed in nursing care facilities, on life support, etc…
But again… this is not something the government should be permitted to touch… they can not handle what they are supposed to handle… how could anyone trust them with health and life?
Again great item Katie! Fantastic, and scary!